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andrewxvx:

leahxvx:

~*~*~*~*~veganism isn’t accessible to everyone for a lot of reasons, so sfu *~**~*~*~*~*~**

~*~*~yay classism~*~*~

*~*~~ yay thinking you know better than someone else how to best take care of themselves/what that person can afford ~*~*~*

Why I agree and disagree with this. I you’re telling people they are “doing it wrong” by vilifying them and not trying to be supportive and educational about things someone may not know, then you should try a new way to help someone with this positive lifestyle.

Secondly, why veganism is cheaper than an omnivore diet and why that isn’t excuse ( I’ll be concise):

Every grocery store and many convience stores carrie the following which allot to a sustainable vegan diet. Cans of beans (roughly .$50-$3.00), fresh vegetables ($.10-$4.00lb), canned vegetables (roughly the same price as beans). Pasta $.79-? Per box)

Bam! Vegan diet.

When I first went vegan (and vegetarian) I made very very little money and had no outside financial support towards my food. And I did very well and took care of myself and remained healthy without the needs to external vitamin supplements. Not everyone may have the same health conditions, but many particular health concerns can be taken care of by altering your diet and if you are willing to spend the money on the pharmaceuticals to fix it, you can spend the money on better food. And I made some killer recipes just eating that kind of food.

It’s when people buy into the idea of veganism that it becomes expensive. Buying things that say vegan and eating lots of processed vegan foods and fake meats. But any walk of life can live n a vegan diet. Many under privileged children only get meals at school and schools HAVE to provide for the specific requirements of a students diet, etc.

Financial Limitations are not an excuse not to be vegan.

Andrew, I have to disagree! Financial limitations ARE an excuse not to be vegan.

Not everyone makes enough money to buy food.

When I was younger, my family ate out of food banks. Nothing vegan there at all. If we hadn’t gotten food from there, we wouldn’t have eaten. That really isn’t an option. And while my family was poor, we had more money than many other families and people out there.

Not everyone can work, not everyone can earn an income or get help from the government.

Not everyone can control who buys the food for them or what they eat.

I don’t think others should be condemned for surviving, and it’s certainly not the place of people who can afford to be vegan to tell everyone how affordable it is. It’s affordable and accessible to you, yes, but not everyone.

I can’t agree with you about financial limitations being a reason, if someone doesn’t want to be then fine, but every time I hear the “classist” argument it just rings full or shit.  

when we got food from the food bank, I didn’t have an easy time and I did end up slipping up once in a while but it didn’t change that I was trying my best and it was important to me.  It isn’t fair to condemn anyone for not being vegan but you can live really cheaply and be vegan.  Almost everyone I know who is vegan is super cheap for one reason or another, I live on less than 200$ a month and I’m having to deal with a disability.  Before I had my vegan roommate I did just well enough on less than that.  

Saying that veganism is classist is very out of touch, some people can make it costly but I don’t think the majority of vegans do.

Lucky you for not living in a food desert without transportation so the only accessible food source is 7 Eleven across the street. I’m not as lucky as you. Food prices also vary by location. Hell, the price ranges one of you gave up there were very variable, and I for one have never seen decent food on the cheaper end of those ranges. While vegan food may be cheap in some places, I would have to find a specialty grocery store on a bus route and probably work two jobs in order to get it. I also have IBS, for me meaning that it’s literally impossible for my system to handle all that fiber.

Hate to jump in here, but regardless of if you *think* that veganism is accessible for everybody, regardless of economic situation, I think it boils down to the idea that people should not have to defend their lifestyle choices, and nobody is superior to anybody else. nobody should need an excuse why they aren’t vegan. they just be allowed to be non-vegan without needing to explain themselves. 

nobody should shame others for lifestyle choices.